Father: Ieuan Gethin of Baglan, son of Ieuan ap Lleision of Baglan and his wife Efa ferch Llywelyn.[2]
Mother: Elsbeth ferch Thomas,[2][3] daughter of Jonet ferch Llywelyn Fychan of Meisgyn[4] and Thomas, son of Ifor Hael of Gwern-y-clepa ("Gwern y klepa ymassalec...in Bassaleg"[5]) and his wife Nest ferch Rhun.[6]
Husband: Morgan of Radur, son of Llywelyn ap Ieuan ap Llywelyn ap Cynwrig.[7] Morgan's mother was a daughter of Ieuan[8] ap Gruffudd ap Iorwerth.[9]
Catrin married Thomas ap David Mathew[8] (Thomas died 1470).[11]
Sources
↑ Birth about 1400 is a guess based on birth years for Margaret (1427) and Catrin (1436) and general ages for first marriages in Wales at the time (see Darrell Wolcott's article Generational Gaps and the Welsh Laws: husbands usually established/in possession of inherited lands (about age 30) and women as wife/mother much younger (about 14, 15). Birth year guess for her husband Morgan is 1378, based on his father Llywelyn ap Ieuan living in 1381 (Iestyn 19, #Bartrum).
↑ In WikiTree, not attached because of the database error caused with Elsbeth b c1420 and Efa born c1400. Resolution of this date impossibility has been elusive.
↑Dictionary of Welsh Biography (DWB): Entry for Ifor Hael, Emeritus Professor Sir Ifor Williams (1959)
↑Cydifor Fawr 16 (#Bartrum), which shows death of Ifor Hael as 1361 [with footnote "LPM 329"], but the article on Ifor Hael (#DWB), says
"...the birth of Ifor may be assigned to c. 1313 or 1319 at the earliest. He would, therefore, have fl. c. 1340-60. It is known that his eldest brother, Morgan, d. before 1384 (Clark, Limbus Patrum, 310), but there is no certainty as to when Ifor or his wife Nest, d.; the year 1380 is a suggestion only."
The Bartrum Project, digitization of "Welsh Genealogies AD 300- 1500" by Peter C. Bartrum (mirrored from the defunct Cadair site by Geni: Bartrum Genealogical Project - free login required to access the charts). See additional information about Cadair in G2G.
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there are generational dating issues with the older Welsh lines - sources seldom include dates and things get skewed. It takes a LOT of research to straighten these out & while doing so there will be at least one major disconnect on dates (such as on this profile, with Elsbeth born after Efa, according to the dates on their profiles).
attached WikiTree profile for Elsbeth, daughter of Thomas ab Ifor Heal, but that profile has Elsbeth b 1420, which can't be right (can't be right with Efa born c1400, but other reasons too). If Efa was Elsbeth's first child, and 1400 for Efa is close to correct, we could expect Elsbeth's birth to be c1385.
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She should be disconnected.